Recreating an analog EQ setting in a digital plugin

Last night during a ballet tech rehearsal I was asked to do some channel strip EQ on the Midas Venice 240 console. Knowing that the new EQ setting was appropriate for one of the 3 pieces of music, I set out this morning to measure the channel strip settings so that I could process the actual audio in Twisted Wave so that I could bypass the channel strip eq. With an FFT rig like Smaart, Spectrafoo Complete, etc…the process is accurate and doesn’t take much to achieve.

For the purpose, I used my Metric Halo ULN2 (2 channel audio interface). I used output 1 to feed a channel input on the console. I used ULN2 – output 2 to send pink noise out of the ULN2 and back into the ULN2 via input 2 (a loop). I took the direct out of the console channel and returned it to ULN2 – input 1. This setup allows me to measure only the console channel strip which is the simplest signal path to measure the channel eq.

INSERT photo of channel strip and the results from measuring…

Meyer Sound SIM3 or Rational Acoustics Smaart 7 class???

I had planned on attending both Meyer Sound’s SIM3 / System Design course with Bob McCarthy and Rational Acoustic’s Smaart 7 course with Harry Brill Jr this year in Fort Worth Texas but it just so happens that the classes overlap… 🙁

Meyer Sound – SIM3 Training and System Design with Bob McCarthy

Meyer Sound - SIM3 / System Design with Bob McCarthy

Rational Acoustics – Smaart 7 class with Harry Brill Jr

Rational Acoustics Smaart 7 with Harry Brill Jr

Considering that much of my lagging questions related to system design more than using the tools themselves, I’ve opted for Bob’s class this time. Smaart 7 training is at the top of the list though. I may have to get on a plane to scratch it off my list…

Saint Andrew – part 3

Finally getting back to this project…

I’ve spent countless hours thinking about this project, drawing pictures, measuring angles, asking my mentors questions, etc…

At the end of the day, there is no such thing as a perfect sound system design. Any system is a compromise so the goal is to optimize the system so that everyone has even volume and even frequency response without comb filtering and while trying to avoid exciting the room. This room is stone, wood, concrete, glass and plaster. Obviously we want to avoid exciting the reflective surfaces or intelligibility will suffer. As it is, just an un amplified voice in the room is already very wet. There may ultimately need to be some acoustic treatment in order to resolve some of the existing reflections. For now we will focus on deciding where speakers go, how many there will be and how they will be aimed. There are (8) seating areas. If that were the final statement, things would be easier to tackle but one of the (8) seating areas is sometimes used for the live band which means that the coverage needs for that last section of seating needs to be adjustable.

In a perfect world I guess we would use (8) speakers that could cover only (1) seating section but I’m not sure a speaker exists that has that HF dispersion pattern. Like this:

St-Andrew-top-view take 3 rev 3

If we could find and afford a speaker that could cover only one section of seating and it was within budget to get (8) of them, we could mute the speaker covering the band when the band is playing and all would be good. Obviously using (8) speakers is more expensive than (6), (4), (3), (2) or (1). To be able to time align and eq each speaker there has to be an amp channel and signal processing channel for each speaker. That means each time we add another speaker to the design we add additional cost for another amplifier channel and signal processing channel. At this point I’ll mention that DSP (digital signal processors) typically come in 2input x 6 output or 4 input x 8 output or 8 input x 8 output. What this means is that once you go past the 8 channel boundary, you have to get another unit. At a minimum, this system will need an 8 x 8 DSP unit. Can the system be designed to work well with only (8) speakers total? Doubtful but maybe.

One of the goals of this system is to be able to reproduce full range sound (not currently possible) so there will be ceiling mounted subs involved. That will again require more amp channels and more signal processing. I like to avoid making hard decisions in the design stage because it limits creativity and also is unnecessary, until certain landmarks are reached, I’ll keep this design in the “theoretical” arena.

As a case study, I have made some speaker configuration options without concern of whether it physically possible or not. Unfortunately speakers don’t come in unlimited dispersion pattern options. Most speakers are designed for the masses so unless you spend a lot of money, you can expect to get speakers that have HF horns with 75,80,90,100, 105 conical patterns. If you need an asymmetrical horn, the options are also limited. Since the goal is to minimize the amount of overlap at the acoustic seam between speakers, you can’t just throw up any speakers and call it good. You need to make sure that you have chosen the right speakers for the necessary coverage but avoid excessive overlap. 5 to 10 percent is considered acceptable. More than that and you end up with severe comb filtering at the seem.

Meyer Sound makes some speakers with narrow horns.

For example, the UPA-2P is has a 45 degree conical HF horn.
Meyer Sound – UPA-2P

Another example is the Meyer Sound UPQ-2P
Meyer Sound – UPQ-2P

Either of these might be an appropriate speaker choice for covering (8) separate seating zones. Unfortunately the expense involved would likely be more than the client can afford.

IF we did use something like the self powered UPA-2P or UPQ-2P, we wouldn’t need separate amplifiers but we would need to have 120VAC power installed at each speaker location. This may also be too expensive an option.

The balancing act is picking the right speakers, choosing the right speaker configuration and providing a system that exceeds expectation without costing so much that the project is canceled.

I have been very impressed and pleased with what QSC has offered in the speaker realm. I’ve even seen designers who use Meyer Sound speakers use QSC speakers for less important zones (backstage, rear surround, etc…). Maybe we can find speakers in the QSC product line that will provide a cost effective solution to this venue’s needs.

The QSC speakers that I’m currently researching are the ADS12 (full range speaker) and the ADS112SW (subwoofer).



I would consider using one of the QSC self powered models but I am hesitant to use a speaker that has a fan involved. One of the things Meyer Sound does right is use convection cooling. I have installed QSC self powered speakers before when multple fans are running, it’s noticeable. I’m sure the concept is that when the fans are running the speaker volume is going to mask the fan noise but that’s not always the case.

Wind & scrims!

I just finished installing some speakers for an outdoor venue where the system designer was using Smaart 7, a DPA 4007 & a Lectrosonics TM400 wireless kit. As a side note, the engineer is a Meyer SIM3 owner and user. It had never crossed my mind but sometimes the wind is just going to ruin your measurement process and you may just have to wait for a break in the wind. Right off the bat you can expect your low end measurement response to be totally unusable.

One of the other experiences I had on this install was realizing that scrims are NOT acoustically transparent. Anything between a speaker and the audiences ears is going to effect some portion of the frequency response. If you put a speaker right up against a scrim, there is less reflection than when you move back away from the scrim. Interestingly as you move a speaker away from a scrim, as you move away, the frequency of reflection drops. So if you have to deal with a scrim, you’re best off hugging it. The main arrays for the PA were clusters of Meyer JM1P (4 boxes) which creates a curved array. Obviously even if part of it is up against the scrim, part of it will not be up against a scrim. Unfortunately scrims are a necessary part of some sound installations and so we need to know how to optimize any circumstance.

Theme park install – 051115

Tomorrow I start an install job at a popular theme park in San Antonio. The park is about to go to a 7 day schedule until end of Summer so the park is busy getting everything ready.

The new PA consists of:

(2) Meyer JM1P arrays (4 boxes per side)
(4) Meyer HP700 subs (2 boxes per side)
(2) Meyer UPQ center fills
(2) Meyer UPQ side fills
(2) Meyer UM1P ???

All DSP will be performed via a Qsys network.


The JM1P is a 20 x 60 degree box and the shape of the box allows them to be arrayed tightly.

With (4) boxes per L / R array that provides 80 degrees of horizontal coverage x 60 degrees of vertical coverage. Add another box and you get 100×60. Another and you get 120×60 etc… I presume you could make a 360×60 array but I’m not sure what good it would do.

Last week I visited the construction site to look at rigging options. In case it’s not clear by now, aiming your speaker correctly must be achieved before any eq / delay / correction is done. Aim your speakers wrong and you might be wasting your time and money.

Once I’m on site I’ll write more.

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